This is a basic forum I've set up so people suffering from scabies can share experiences and help each other. Please feel free to share advice and ask questions, and if you do successfully (or unsuccessfully) manage to treat your scabies, please come back and let us know!
Thanks and good luck with your treatments.
7 months of scabies.. realised that they are not going away cos they are on my face and scalp and have been only treating from the neck down. Cant seem to get rid of them on the face and scalp. Body responds well to treatment of permethrin and your body mask but head and face not so.
Saw dermatologist who refused to believe they affect the head and face of adults and charged me $260 to tell me that I have dermatitis on my scalp. He wouldn't take skin scrapings even though I had itchy red bumps all around my hair line and behind my ears and face. Have treated face with Permethrin and scalp and on 2 occasions they have gone into the rim of my eye, (where I have not been able to apply the cream).
I can actually feel them biting me now as I am highly sensitive to them now as Ive had them for so long.
Doctor's are so uneducated about scabies as my son was mis diagnosed originally, and then eventually a few months later told he had scabies, which I had got from him before he was diagnosed.
I have been on invectrim twice but still no luck. I have followed your plan and done every single thing that you have recommended, but they still come back.
My daily hygiene is great, I have 7 pillow's that I alternate daily and sleep on plastic, which I wipe with bleach and changed sheets daily. I never wear the same clothes twice and have sprayed my car and house with insecticide with scabie killer from the pet shop. My nails are short and I disinfect my hair bands combs etc.
I am now thinking of shaving my head as I have shoulder length hair and I'm worried that the amount of hair that I have makes things worse for me, but provides the mites and actual scabies with a lovely warm home...
Do you suggest me doing this to increase the chances of getting rid of them?
I have already cut 8 inches off my hair so I don't have to apply so much expensive permethrin.
I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong as my son responded to treatment so well, but was not affected on his head and face.
I am just ordered Permethrin to mix up myself and also Sulphur cream, so I will just keep trying.
I'm hoping you can help me with any advice.
Hi-yield 38+ (permethrin) pesticide, and some durvet ivermectin pour on, clove oil essential oil, generic hand lotion and/or 100% aloe vera lotion gel, some 91% rubbing alcohol, and some patience.
Ivermectin is used worldwide for parasites, well everywhere but the good ol' USA, because big pharma makes too much money on products that don't work.
Think outside of the box a little, and you can end the hell caused by the scabies mites.
The ivermectin you had taken was probably prescribed by a doctor who does not want to cure you, otherwise the dose would have been strong enough to do the trick, a common theme by people who went to a doctor in the united states for scabies treatment. Get the horse paste ivermectin or the durvet pour on ( what I used) and measure out the proper dose according to your body weight, there is a Lb. measuring scale on the bottle (1 liter bottle, durvet pour on) for horses, and that is the same scale used for humans. If you weigh 125 lbs, it is 1/2 the dose for a 250 lb subject. Remember, you are taking a medication meant for topical use on a horse, so it tastes terrible, and its inert ingredients are the same as rubbing alcohol. Don't worry, it won't kill you or make you sick unless you drink the whole bottle at once. On your first day take your proper dose by weight of ivermectin (paste or liquid), followed by a "dip" of permethrin, and do not rinse off the permethrin. Hy-yield 38+ is over 38% permethrin, and it is mineral oil based so it stinks, but that is good. Ever dip a dog for fleas? Pretty much the same for yourself- either mix up a batch in warm water ( five gallon bucket, or bathtub) and cover yourself in this dip by pouring it over your ENTIRE body in the tub or shower as if you were bathing, only don't rinse, and that is important. How much you make up depends on bath or bucket, but keep in mind you want your "dip" to be pretty strong, at 1 to 1.5 % permethrin. Stronger than any prescription or otc cream you can buy, and that's for good reason. Effectiveness. You can use the clove oil to 'sweeten' the dip, and even add cologne or perfume to it, just make sure the permethrin % rate is at the aforementioned strength. I use a combination of clove/cinnamon oil, and of the total added essential oil, at least a total of 15 drops per gallon, any more and it stings too much on the extremities, just trust me on that one. You don't need to soak for hours in it, but if you have a tub and can soak for up to 10 minutes in it, it will be slightly more effective than a pour over treatment, but not much. Do not rinse. If you have a fan, don't try to rub off too much treatment with your towel, but air dry with the fan. You are trying to leave as much product on the skin as possible. And under your nails, in your ears, under your toenails, up your nostrils, they will even try to get away from the 'dip' by getting in your eyes, so plan on getting some lotion or gel mixed with permethrin/ivermectin as a "bug sauce" you can smear under your toenails.fingernails and in your ears as a leave in treatment. Clean out your nose thoroughly, and do not go back in there if you can help it.
Now think about this, when they treat a horse with the two main products, they don't vacuum the stall, run the saddle through the dryer, spray out the stall, bleach the field the horse runs around in, or any of that nonsense. They apply product on the inside and outside strong enough to kill the parasites. Same for you. You don't want to stink like permethrin while at work, so doing this at night is probable better than before you leave the house.
Mix the rubbing alcohol with the clove oil in a strong enough percentage to get that clove smell pretty strong, about a healthy teaspoon per 12 ounces, and use it as a spot spray for the first 48 hours. If the host (you) is off limits from the ivermectin/permethrin doses, then you are using this spray to kill eggs and mites that are in your environment, but that shouldn't last too long because without a host the parasites die. depending on the infestation, you will have to "dip" every three days, and take another dose of ivermectin every week. And remember: clove oil that's mixed strong enough in rubbing alcohol will kill mites/eggs instantly. Mix it with vasoline if you have to, and use that clove oil/vasoline stuff when you feel like you need to spot treat until they start to die out.
Aloe vera gel stops the burning/itching and helps heal, and wear gloves or mitts for sleeping, because too many victims of these creatures from hell spread them around while sleeping.
My first night I poured full strength clove oil mixed with as much rubbing alcohol as I could cup in my hand and rubbed it in my hair and on my neck, ears, nostrils, crotch and just about lost consciousness it burned so bad, but I wanted some relief- and some sleep. Dried my skin out pretty bad, discovered coconut oil works real good for that. I didn't know what I was doing wrong at first either.
Stay strong, and it will end soon.
If you do thorough research as I have about scabies and ivermectin, you will find the information outside of the USA more accurate and conclusive. Remember that big pharma in the USA does not want cures, but patients. American doctors do not want to cure you. That's where the profit is. Also as a follow up to my previous post, there are cases that involve multiple infestations, with other pests such as bed bugs and other strains of mites. If you do live in an apartment complex or heavily cramped multi-family environment this is not uncommon. Parasites need a viable host, and to "cure" a scabies ( or any other parasite) infestation you have to become an unviable host, in a parasite hostile environment.
Your outer layer of skin is the environment and your exudate, tissue fluid and other substances in the keratinous layer are thought to serve as sources of nourishment for the parasite, so treating both at the same time is very important. Scabies die out without a host, take yourself off the menu.
sulfur camphor lotion (6% sulfur mixture) and sulphur products in general have been in use for milenia for scabies , and stronger and stronger doses are necessary to combat infestations due to it's considerate use throughout history, although still very effective, treating yourself with it and smelling like a rotten egg all of the time is detrimental to treatment but it works better than almost anything available today. Here is the best information I have discovered so far on scabies and treatment.
Near the end of the study is the guideline of treating environmental concerns related to scabies and crusted scabies, take this into consideration to manage your particular case.
Please get this information out into the world wide web and help to eradicate this pest.